Claim · G-002
David Grusch: Maintains that the origin of these objects is “exotic,” that is, attributable to non-human intelligence, extraterrestrial or of unknown origin, and that it is not a matter of prosaic explanations.
David Grusch · Jun 5, 2023 · The Debrief, article by Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal (statements cleared by DOPSR) (Article)
Hearsay Nature of the non-humans
Disputed
It falls between “disputed” and “unverifiable”: “disputed” prevails because explicit official AARO conclusions are set against the supporting testimonies.
- In support
- Karl Nell maintains that some technologies derive from non-human intelligence; according to The Debrief (June 5, 2023), the officer presented under the name “Jonathan Grey,” used within the agency, states that the phenomenon of non-human intelligence is real. These are testimonial claims.
- Against or denials
- The AARO Historical Report vol. 1 (2024) states that, to date, AARO has found no empirical evidence that any UAP sighting represented extraterrestrial technology; "Grey" himself specified that most of the exotic materials recovered have a prosaic terrestrial explanation. NASIC, through spokesperson Michelle Martz (Dayton Daily News, June 12, 2023), said it had no record of an employee named "Jonathan Grey"; Blumenthal (The Debrief) replied that he had confirmed that a person with that identity works there. Neither position is documented.
Sources
- AARO, Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with UAP, vol. 1 (March 8, 2024), copy on The Black Vault (primary source)
- Space.com, the AARO historical report: no empirical evidence of alien technology (March 2024) (press)
- The Debrief, “Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Non-Human Craft” (Kean and Blumenthal, June 5, 2023) (press, pro-disclosure)
On this site
People 1
Claims 3
- David Grusch: Claims that the United States holds material of non-human origin, including intact and partially intact craft. Disputed
- David Grusch: Says he prefers the term “non-human” so as not to indicate an origin and traces the matter back to the 1930s. Unverifiable
- David Grusch: Describes several non-human species: “Nordics” or “Tall Whites,” very beautiful; Grays, the tallest holding… Unverifiable
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