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David Grusch: Claims that the oldest case he was informed of is a craft recovered in Italy in 1933 by Mussolini's government (the episode known as the Magenta case) and held at a protected air base until the Allied occupation.

David Grusch · Jun 7, 2023 · Interview with a French outlet (Le Parisien, according to Wikipedia) and interview with NewsNation with Ross Coulthart (June 2023) (Interview)

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The only known documentary basis is notes sent anonymously to Roberto Pinotti in 1996, of disputed authenticity, and the French outlet cited for the quotation was not checked against the original (according to Wikipedia's summary, he spoke of documents he had seen).

In support
According to Pinotti, an analysis of paper and ink commissioned by the CUN, the association he co-founded, judged the documents authentic to the Fascist era; historian Andrea Bedetti said he cannot rule out the existence of a “Gabinetto RS/33.”
Against or denials
According to Metabunk's analysis, the report by expert Antonio Garavaglia acknowledges that there are no analytical data or methods capable of giving certain indications on dating and concerns a 1936 document, not a 1933 one. A Vatican source with access to the archives, cited anonymously by NewsNation (June 15, 2026), found no references to the episode, which however does not definitively refute it.

Sources

  1. Roberto Pinotti, “The UFO Files of Mussolini,” account of the documents received in 1996 (The Black Vault) (primary source, pro-disclosure)
  2. Newsweek, Grusch, the Vatican and the craft recovered in Italy (August 2, 2023) (press)
  3. NewsNation, no trace of the Magenta case in the Vatican archives according to a Vatican source (June 15, 2026) (press)
  4. Metabunk, “Claim: A UFO crashed in 1933 Italy”: analysis of the documents on the Magenta case (analysis, skeptical)

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