Claim · G-083
David Grusch: Describes the Magenta craft as a lenticular disc whose rim allegedly broke off, leaving a bell or acorn shape.
David Grusch · Sep 30, 2026 · The Joe Rogan Experience podcast, episode No. 2560 (Podcast)
Hearsay Historical cases
Unverifiable
The bell shape does not appear in the original Italian documents which, according to Metabunk's analysis, describe a 10–12 meter disc.
- Against or denials
- According to Metabunk, the bell shape and the details of the American retrieval appear only in William Brophy Jr.'s letters to Flying Saucer Review dated after 2004.
Sources
- The Joe Rogan Experience No. 2560, episode with David Grusch (Apple Podcasts, September 30, 2026) (video/audio)
- Metabunk, “Claim: A UFO crashed in 1933 Italy”: analysis of the documents on the Magenta case (analysis, skeptical)
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- David Grusch: Claims that the oldest case he was informed of is a craft recovered in Italy in 1933 by Mussolini's… Unverifiable
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Inconsistencies 1
Cases 1
- Magenta 1933: the alleged retrieval of a disc, known only from anonymous papers Disputed explanation
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