Claim · G-005

David Grusch: Says he was approached, in his official role, by people working on these programs, and maintains that retrieval operations are still ongoing and that he knows the people involved.

David Grusch · Jun 5, 2023 · The Debrief, article by Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal (statements cleared by DOPSR) (Article)

Hearsay Legacy program and recoveries

In support

Under oath (July 26, 2023) he confirmed that he personally interviewed people with direct knowledge of the programs.

Against or denials

AARO states that it found no verifiable evidence of retrieval programs; former director Sean Kirkpatrick attributes these accounts to a small group of interconnected people who cite one another (“circular reporting”), without naming Grusch.

Sources

1. Official transcript of the July 26, 2023 hearing in the House of Representatives (GovInfo, CHRG-118hhrg53022) (primary source)
2. NPR (via KPCW), Pentagon finds no evidence of alien technology in new report (March 8, 2024) (press)
3. Sean Kirkpatrick, “Here's What I Learned as the U.S. Government's UFO Hunter,” Scientific American (January 2024) (analysis, skeptical)
4. The Debrief, “Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Non-Human Craft” (Kean and Blumenthal, June 5, 2023) (press, pro-disclosure)

On this site

People 1

• David Grusch

Claims 2

• David Grusch: Claims to have been cleared for most of the Defense Department's compartmented space and aerospace programs… Unverifiable
• David Grusch: Asked whether the government possesses UAPs, he answers “absolutely,” based on interviews with more than 40… Disputed

Where the claims come from 1

• The United States holds intact or partially intact craft of non-human origin, the product of a retrieval…

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