Claim · G-040
David Grusch: Claims to have been cleared for most of the Defense Department's compartmented space and aerospace programs and to have personally interviewed people with direct knowledge of non-human craft.
David Grusch · Jul 26, 2023 · House hearing, Oversight Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs (Hearing)
Under oath Direct knowledge Biography and credentials
Unverifiable
Clearances and interviews are not publicly documented.
- Original words
Yes. I personally interviewed those individuals.
- In support
- His role on the UAP task force and at the NGA is consistent with the available official sources.
- Against or denials
- Kirkpatrick maintains that many allegations stem from unintentional or unauthorized disclosures of legitimate U.S. programs, which would leave open the possibility that sincere witnesses misunderstood what they knew; he does not refer expressly to Grusch.
Sources
- Official transcript of the July 26, 2023 hearing in the House of Representatives (GovInfo, CHRG-118hhrg53022) (primary source)
- Sean Kirkpatrick, “Here's What I Learned as the U.S. Government's UFO Hunter,” Scientific American (January 2024) (analysis, skeptical)
On this site
People 1
Claims 3
- David Grusch: Presents himself as an intelligence officer for 14 years, in the Air Force with the rank of major and then… Partly verified
- David Grusch: Says he was approached, in his official role, by people working on these programs, and maintains that… Unverifiable
- David Grusch: Asked whether the government possesses UAPs, he answers “absolutely,” based on interviews with more than 40… Disputed
Documents 2
- Grusch's written statement for the July 26, 2023 hearing Original available
- The biography filed by Grusch for the 2023 hearing Original available
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