Claim · G-017
David Grusch: Claims that some craft crashed and others landed, specifies that he has not seen one in person and says his information comes from dozens of credible inside sources.
David Grusch · Jun 2023 · Interview with NewsNation with Ross Coulthart (June 2023) (Interview)
Hearsay Legacy program and recoveries
Unverifiable
It is reported by a 2025 press summary that attributes the contents to a NewsNation interview without giving its date, with quotation marks that might be paraphrases.
- In support
- Under oath (July 26, 2023) he gave as his basis more than 40 witnesses interviewed over four years.
- Against or denials
- The AARO historical report (vol. 1, March 2024) found no empirical evidence of programs to reverse-engineer extraterrestrial technology and judges inaccurate the claims about people, places, tests and documents connected to them; the FY2025 annual report (July 2026) writes that no evidence indicates that any government or private entity has ever captured or exploited materials derived from UAP. These are checks on what the office was able to examine: Grusch's sources are not known.
Sources
- Official transcript of the July 26, 2023 hearing in the House of Representatives (GovInfo, CHRG-118hhrg53022) (primary source)
- Higgypop, summary of Grusch's claims in the NewsNation interview (published in 2025) (press)
- AARO, Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with UAP, vol. I (March 8, 2024) (The Black Vault copy) (primary source)
- AARO, FY2025 Consolidated Annual Report on UAP (The Black Vault copy): section “Capture or Exploitation of UAP” (primary source)
On this site
People 1
Claims 5
- David Grusch: Asked whether he personally saw a craft, he answers that he must be careful in describing in that setting… Unverifiable
- David Grusch: Asked whether the government possesses UAPs, he answers “absolutely,” based on interviews with more than 40… Disputed
- David Grusch: Claims that the United States holds material of non-human origin, including intact and partially intact craft. Disputed
- David Grusch: Says he was informed of the existence of craft as large as a football field. Unverifiable
- David Grusch: Lists the shapes of the craft (Tic Tacs, eggs, discs, boot heels, sunfish, boomerangs, crescents) and… Unverifiable
Inconsistencies 1
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