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Luis Elizondo: Asked whether there had been talk of possessing bodies, he answers “yes” under oath, but specifies that he cannot say of what kind, that it was talked about a lot, anecdotally, when he was at the Pentagon, and that the alleged collection of biological samples took place before his arrival, indeed before his birth; he says he is aware of reports according to which biological materials were recovered.

Luis Elizondo · Nov 13, 2024 · Joint hearing of two subcommittees of the House Oversight Committee, “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth” (November 13, 2024) – answers to Burlison (Hearing)

Under oath Hearsay Non-human biologics

Original words

I can tell you anecdotally that it was discussed quite a bit

In support

David Grusch spoke under oath (2023) of non-human biological material, also based on hearsay; in the written responses of December 19, 2024, Elizondo adds that biological samples were found in some retrievals.

Against or denials

Regarding the proposed Kona Blue program, AARO writes that no extraterrestrial craft or bodies were ever collected; the AARO FY2025 report (July 2026) rejects the claims about possession of recovered material.

Sources

1. Transcript of the hearing “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth”, House of Representatives, November 13, 2024 (primary source)
2. DoD/DHS, declassified documents on Kona Blue, April 2024 (The Black Vault copy) (primary source)
3. Brian Dunning – on the AARO historical report, March 12, 2024 (analysis, skeptical)
4. The Black Vault – AARO releases the FY2025 report, July 21, 2026 (analysis)

On this site

People 1

• Luis Elizondo

Claims 4

• Luis Elizondo: Claims that four non-human bodies were actually recovered from the 1947 Roswell crash. Contradicted
• Luis Elizondo: Writes that he is aware of several episodes in which the U.S. military and some defense companies retrieved… Unverifiable
• Luis Elizondo: Argues that a secret program for the retrieval of non-human craft has existed for decades, called the… Unverifiable
• Luis Elizondo: Answers “yes” under oath to the question of whether the government has conducted secret programs to retrieve… Disputed

Inconsistencies 1

• Luis Elizondo: “Yes” under oath, but based on hearsay

Documents 2

• The declassified documents on Kona Blue, the program proposed to DHS and never approved Original available
• The transcript of the November 13, 2024 House hearing with Elizondo, Gallaudet, Shellenberger and Gold Original available

Where the claims come from 2

• Non-human biological remains, that is, bodies or “biologics,” were recovered together with the craft.
• In 1947 at Roswell non-human bodies were recovered: four according to Elizondo (2024), with some of the…

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