Document · D-OC-13
The transcript of the November 13, 2024 House hearing with Elizondo, Gallaudet, Shellenberger and Gold
Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth (hearing, 13 November 2024)
U.S. House of Representatives – Oversight Committee (joint subcommittees) · Nov 13, 2024 · USA · Transcript
Original available
Official transcript on GovInfo, downloaded on November 1, 2026; the index of documents entered into the record was read directly.
- What it contains
- Official transcript with the sworn testimony of Luis Elizondo, Tim Gallaudet, Michael Shellenberger and Michael Gold. The index of documents entered into the record lists a letter from Christopher Mellon, documents submitted by Rep. Burchett and the “Immaculate Constellation” report.
- What it shows and what it does not
- It is the primary source for Elizondo's sworn claims about retrievals, bodies, contractors, retaliation and programs hidden from Congress. It proves what was said under oath and what entered the record, not the truth of the claims; after the hearing the Pentagon reiterated that it has no verifiable evidence (S-037).
- How it came to light
- Published by the House (GovInfo; transcript also on docs.house.gov). Omega Click published an Italian version in two parts (November 18 and 21, 2024); the translation has not been verified.
- The document
- Open the document (govinfo.gov)
Sources
- Transcript of the November 13, 2024 hearing (GovInfo, CHRG-118hhrg57440) (primary source)
- Transcript of the hearing (docs.house.gov, PDF) (primary source)
- Omega Click, “UDIENZA UFO AL CONGRESSO IN ITALIANO (PARTE 1)” (YouTube, November 18, 2024) (video/audio, pro-disclosure)
- Omega Click, “UDIENZA UFO AL CONGRESSO IN ITALIANO (PARTE 2)” (YouTube, November 21, 2024) (video/audio, pro-disclosure)
- NPR, November 13, 2024 – the House hearing on UAP (press)
On this site
People 11
- Luis Elizondo
- Tim Gallaudet
- Michael Shellenberger
- Michael Gold
- Nancy Mace
- Tim Burchett
- Eric Burlison
- Glenn Grothman
- Christopher Mellon
- Jared Moskowitz
- Anna Paulina Luna
Claims 21
- Luis Elizondo: Claims under oath that UAP are real, that advanced technologies not built by the U.S. government or by other… Disputed
- Luis Elizondo: Claims under oath that the United States possesses UAP technologies, as do some adversaries, and confirms to… Disputed
- Luis Elizondo: Claims under oath that he believes a secret arms race has been under way for decades, funded with diverted… Disputed
- Luis Elizondo: Answers “yes” under oath to the question of whether the government has conducted secret programs to retrieve… Disputed
- Luis Elizondo: Asked whether there had been talk of possessing bodies, he answers “yes” under oath, but specifies that he… Unverifiable
- Luis Elizondo: Claims under oath that an aerospace company (Lockheed Martin, according to the written responses) asked to… Unverifiable
- Luis Elizondo: Claims to have signed about three years earlier, in a SCIF at a Department of Defense facility and in front… Unverifiable
- Luis Elizondo: Claims under oath to have worked personally with David Grusch a few years earlier at the U.S. Space Force. Unverifiable
- Luis Elizondo: Claims under oath that in his last assignment he was Director of the National Programs Special Management… Partly verified
- Luis Elizondo: Reconstructs his career under oath: studies in microbiology and immunology, service in the Army with a brief… Partly verified
- Luis Elizondo: Claims under oath that, after returning to the Pentagon around 2009, he soon became part of the program… Partly verified
- Luis Elizondo: Claims under oath that the GOFAST, GIMBAL and FLIR videos were part of the work of the AATIP program of… Partly verified
- Luis Elizondo: Claims under oath that it can be presumed that UAP are intelligently controlled, because in some cases they… Unverifiable
- Luis Elizondo: Claims under oath that instantaneous acceleration was one of the “observables” studied by AATIP and that the… Unverifiable
- and 7 more in the archive
Promises 1
Inconsistencies 3
- Luis Elizondo: “Yes” under oath, but based on hearsay
- Luis Elizondo: Deferrals to a closed session that does not appear to have taken place
- Luis Elizondo: Bound not to speak about retrievals, but writes about them to Congress
Official positions 1
Where the claims come from 7
- The United States holds intact or partially intact craft of non-human origin, the product of a retrieval…
- Non-human biological remains, that is, bodies or “biologics,” were recovered together with the craft.
- Lockheed Martin holds material of non-human origin and tried to transfer it to the AAWSAP program and to…
- A “Legacy Program” exists, that is, a set of “legacy” programs that for about eighty years has been…
- An unacknowledged special access program, “Immaculate Constellation,” exists that collects imagery and data…
- The United States has been engaged for decades in a secret “cold war” with rival powers, in particular…
- The reverse engineering of recovered craft has contributed to the development of U.S. aerospace and military…
Timeline 1
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