Claim · E-039
Luis Elizondo: Claims under oath that the United States possesses UAP technologies, as do some adversaries, and confirms to Mace that the material is entrusted to contractors according to their specialization (aerospace for Lockheed Martin). In the written responses he adds that the government or a defense contractor possesses exotic materials of non-human origin.
Luis Elizondo · Nov 13, 2024 · Joint hearing of two subcommittees of the House Oversight Committee, “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth” (November 13, 2024) – opening statement and answers to Mace; reiterated in the written responses of December 19, 2024 (Hearing)
Under oath Hearsay Materials and metamaterials
Disputed
The sworn testimony conflicts with the official conclusions of AARO, which states that it found no evidence of extraterrestrial materials or technologies in the government's possession, and the evidence adduced remains classified.
- Original words
the U.S. is in possession of UAP technologies, as are some of our adversaries
- In support
- James Lacatski, former director of AAWSAP, described in a statement approved by DOPSR (September 6, 2023) a plan to transfer UAP material proposed by a Lockheed Martin executive; David Grusch (2023) and Jay Stratton (2026) maintain similar theses, without public evidence.
- Against or denials
- AARO (March 2024) found no evidence for the reverse engineering narrative; the AARO FY2025 report (July 2026) again rejects the claims about possession of recovered material; DOPSR approval certifies only the absence of classified information, not truthfulness.
Sources
- Transcript of the hearing “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth”, House of Representatives, November 13, 2024 (primary source)
- Elizondo's written responses to Rep. Burlison's questions for the record, December 19, 2024 (copy hosted by the New Paradigm Institute) (primary source)
- Justin Snead – summary of the 2024 AARO historical report, Vol. 1 (analysis)
- The Black Vault – AARO releases the FY2025 report, July 21, 2026 (analysis)
On this site
People 1
Claims 5
- Luis Elizondo: Answers “yes” under oath to the question of whether the government has conducted secret programs to retrieve… Disputed
- Luis Elizondo: Claims under oath that an aerospace company (Lockheed Martin, according to the written responses) asked to… Unverifiable
- Luis Elizondo: Writes that he is aware of several episodes in which the U.S. military and some defense companies retrieved… Unverifiable
- Luis Elizondo: Claims under oath that UAP are real, that advanced technologies not built by the U.S. government or by other… Disputed
- Luis Elizondo: Asked whether the government or defense contractors have made physics discoveries not yet made public, he… Hypothesis or opinion
Documents 3
- Elizondo's written statement for the November 13, 2024 hearing Original available
- The transcript of the November 13, 2024 House hearing with Elizondo, Gallaudet, Shellenberger and Gold Original available
- AARO's Consolidated Annual Report on UAP for Fiscal Year 2025 Original available
Where the claims come from 2
- Lockheed Martin holds material of non-human origin and tried to transfer it to the AAWSAP program and to…
- The United States has been engaged for decades in a secret “cold war” with rival powers, in particular…
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