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Claim origin · GN-03

Lockheed Martin holds material of non-human origin and tried to transfer it to the AAWSAP program and to Bigelow Aerospace, but the transfer was blocked.

Circular sources

First attestation
Sep 6, 2023 · James Lacatski, Statement cleared for publication by DOPSR, reproduced by Elizondo in the written answers of December 19, 2024. Writes that the $22 million of AAWSAP was originally intended to fit out Bigelow Aerospace facilities in Las Vegas as secure areas (SCIFs), for a plan to transfer UAP material proposed to the program's leadership by a vice president of Lockheed Martin Space Systems, now deceased; he says he is basing this on conversations with several people in the program. First documented attestation: the date is that of the DOPSR clearance given by Elizondo; when and where the text was first published has not been established.
Who picked it up
  1. Mar 8, 2024 · anonymous AARO interviewees: In the historical report one interviewee maintains that an organization possessed extraterrestrial material in 2009–2010; another says that they took part in the negotiations to return it to the government and that a former senior CIA official blocked the proposal. AARO finds no evidence. Hearsay (source given: Accounts of anonymous interviewees)
  2. 2024 · Christopher Sharp: Reports a transfer of material from Lockheed Martin to Bigelow Aerospace that the CIA allegedly blocked; the claim is cited by Rep. Burlison at the November 13, 2024 hearing and in the written questions to Elizondo. Hearsay (source given: Not established: the original article was not consulted)
  3. Nov 13, 2024 · Luis Elizondo: Under oath he says that an aerospace company asked to hand over to AAWSAP and to Bigelow material collected in the 1950s, that the transfer was blocked and that a memorandum from the Secretary of the Air Force was needed that never arrived. Hearsay (source given: Lacatski's statement cleared by DOPSR and subsequent conversations with the contractor's staff)
  4. Dec 19, 2024 · Luis Elizondo: In the written answers he names Lockheed Martin, writes that the CIA opposed the transfer to Bigelow and that facilities in Las Vegas and at Patuxent River were identified; he says he does not know how Lockheed established the non-human origin. Hearsay (source given: Lacatski's statement and information received; no direct knowledge of the origin of the material)
  5. Sep 9, 2025 · George Knapp: Writes that he confirmed that Bigelow and a collaborator negotiated with a senior Lockheed executive an agreement to receive unusual material held in California, that the agreement was not completed and that the composition of the material is said to indicate processing in space. Hearsay (source given: An unnamed source present at the negotiation)
  6. Sep 18, 2025 · Liberation Times: Reports that, according to sources, a former senior CIA official, who according to the same sources denies it, allegedly blocked the transfer of materials from Lockheed Martin to DHS under Kona Blue, and that a similar proposal with AAWSAP was also blocked. Hearsay (source given: Three unnamed sources and what Knapp said)
Analysis
All the traceable versions go back to the circle of AAWSAP and Bigelow's company: the first is the statement by the program's former DIA head, Lacatski; Elizondo cites it expressly; Knapp, co-author of Lacatski and collaborator of Bigelow (edges james-lacatski → george-knapp “co-author,” george-knapp → robert-bigelow “colleague”), cites a source present at the negotiations; Liberation Times, which follows Elizondo (christopher-sharp → luis-elizondo “media”), cites anonymous sources. The versions do not coincide on the destination (Bigelow and AAWSAP, or DHS with Kona Blue) or on what stopped the transfer (a CIA official or the lack of an Air Force memorandum). For this thesis, AARO's assessment of circular reports finds support, because there is no confirmation from outside the circle; Kirkpatrick also maintains, without naming the company, that members of the same group submitted to an industry partner a fragment later cited as evidence. Both the thesis and Kirkpatrick's explanation remain unverified: statements or documents from Lockheed Martin and the CIA are lacking, as is the original DOPSR document as an autonomous primary source.

Sources

  1. Written answers by Luis Elizondo to Rep. Burlison's questions (December 19, 2024) (primary source)
  2. AARO, Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with UAP, Volume I (March 8, 2024) (primary source)
  3. Metabunk, transcript of Sean Kirkpatrick's interview with the Guardian (March 22, 2024) (analysis, skeptical)
  4. Official transcript of the November 13, 2024 House hearing (GovInfo, CHRG-118hhrg57440) (primary source)
  5. George Knapp, written testimony for the September 9, 2025 hearing (House Oversight Committee) (primary source, pro-disclosure)
  6. Liberation Times, “Fight over UFO transparency intensifies…” (September 18, 2025) (press, pro-disclosure)

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