Document · D-037
The transcript of the September 9, 2025 hearing of the declassification task force
Restoring Public Trust Through UAP Transparency and Whistleblower Protection – Hearing, Serial No. 119-44
House of Representatives – Oversight Committee, Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets · Sep 9, 2025 · USA · Transcript
Original available
Text read on GovInfo (official version printed by the GPO, Serial No. 119-44); the transcript records “[Witnesses sworn.]”.
- What it contains
- Transcript of the hearing chaired by Anna Paulina Luna with witnesses Jeffrey Nuccetelli, Alexandro Wiggins, George Knapp, Dylan Borland and, for the minority, Joe Spielberger of the Project on Government Oversight. Borland says he was exposed to classified information from the “UAP legacy crash retrieval program.” Among the documents in the record is a letter from Rep. Eli Crane to the Department of Defense (July 24, 2025) on alleged retaliation against Grusch: revocation of his clearance, denied promotion and loss of medical retirement.
- What it shows and what it does not
- It documents new sworn claims that take up the “legacy program” framework, with no supporting documents presented at the hearing. Crane's letter gives his description of the retaliation, not a finding: in the transcript Crane says he is still awaiting a reply from the DoD.
- How it came to light
- Published by the Government Publishing Office on GovInfo.
- The document
- Open the document (govinfo.gov)
Sources
- Oversight Committee – hearing page with the written statements (primary source)
- The War Zone – the MQ-9 video shown at the hearing (press)
On this site
People 8
- Anna Paulina Luna
- Jeffrey Nuccetelli
- Alexandro Wiggins
- George Knapp
- Dylan Borland
- Eric Burlison
- Nancy Mace
- David Grusch
Claims 2
- David Grusch: Describes the retaliation he suffered as “very brutal” and as “administrative terrorism,” attributing… Unverifiable
- Dylan Borland: Claims under oath that, a few years after a triangle sighting at the Langley base in 2012, through an… Unverifiable
Promises 1
Cases 1
- USS Jackson 2023: the “Tic Tac” that, according to a petty officer, emerged from the sea Unexplained
Where the claims come from 5
- The United States holds intact or partially intact craft of non-human origin, the product of a retrieval…
- Lockheed Martin holds material of non-human origin and tried to transfer it to the AAWSAP program and to…
- The United States has been engaged for decades in a secret “cold war” with rival powers, in particular…
- Those involved in the programs or who speak about them have suffered threats, retaliation, violence and even…
- The reverse engineering of recovered craft has contributed to the development of U.S. aerospace and military…
Timeline 1
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